Letter to Paco 16Mar2014

I do not take the position that there is not an objective reality apart from my mental model of that reality. I am saying that whatever we are describing, the human mind cannot be left out of the description. There were stars before human consciousness as we know it evolved from single cell organisms that were based on the carbon created in first generation stars.

NCC - neural correlates of conciousness

The primate brain deals with models of the reality and not the reality itself except for the reality that minds (comprising fermions and bosons) emerge from meat suits. Self reflection evolves from stars. The stars exist apart from the minds. But once the minds emerged, any description of stars and unicorns and Posidon are mental constructs as well as fermions and bosons because electochemistry is a thing.

In Ken Wilber's 4-quadrants, the first quad is the 'it' universe of science. Things that are self-conscious of things are in the 2nd 'I' quadrant of subjective experience. The 2nd quadrant is as real as a star but it has mental models of things that do not exist (Thor and unicorns) that are real heterophenominalogical 'things' that follows from the same 'mental model rules' even if these things are not in the same class of things that exist in the 1st quadrant.

"Am I clown? Do I amuse you?"

Jesus H. Christ is a real 2nd quadrant model (a neural correlate of consciousness) that does not exist in the 1st quadrant (except as a neural correlate of consciousness). But the behaviors of primates is realized -- in a limited sense -- by this phantom of the 1st quadrant and 'real' thing in the 2nd quadrant. The 2nd quadrant is not limited to thoughts about real 1st quadrant phenomena. Crusades and the devine right of Kings cause real, actual trouble in the form of social-political action in the 4th quarter. Kings rule kingdoms; real estate is managed to the benefit of property owners which exist in soveriegn states. Without the 'political' 4th quadrant, Hobbsian nastiness ensues.

The 3rd "we"quadrant is really, actually a thing called social action. This is the behavior of crowds that have 1st quadrant existence (as meat) and actual things (neural correlates of mental models in minds in brains) in the 2nd quadrant. Watch CNN, Fox News and MSNBC for live coverage of the election. That is a real thing (electromagnetic fields modulated by transistors in TV cameras) in the 1st quadrant, mental models in the 2nd quadrant and, social behavior (herds of 1st quadrant urban primates driving 1st quadrant cars to 1st quadrant voting booths). The 2nd quadrant 'emotions' of the winning side of an election come from 1st quadrant dopamines.

All quadrants, all levels is a perniciously attractive mental model that exists as fermions and bosons of multiple minds (as 1st quadrant electochemical phenomena called neural correlates of consciousness) that read this post.

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-Kirk
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